Why do I avoid Missionary postion?
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this is an honest question, and Id appreciate an honest answer, so JL, Id like to ask you this, since that last quote spoke about hot sex and how easy it is to charge for it, because simply, someone can.
This is the deal:
You invite a gorgeous 24 y/o dancer out to dinner and she accepts. Sounds reasonable, you didnt mention sex to her.
During dinner, the conversation drifts towards the real meaning of your asking her out, and she says one of two things:
Hey, JL, you better eat all your dinner cause Im really horny tonight, and when youre done, Im going to take you back to my apartment, and fuck your brains out all night until one of us pass out.
Or
Hey, JL, you better eat all your dinner cause Im really horny tonight, and when your done, Im going to take you back to my apartment, and fuck your brains out all night until one of us pass out, and Im only going to charge you 400 bucks cause I can!
Now, tell me, honestly, do you think the sex would be equal, or do you think the sex would be much hotter if she made the first statement or second statement?
I say, in order to understand really hot sex, the adrenalin rush, the thrill of the hunt, the thrill of victory, money cannot be an issue, ever. Thats hot sex, and I dont see it any other way.
Yes, sex can be very hot with whores, steaming, but when its done for unlimited lust only, theres no comparison in my book.
So maybe I think some whores dont understand that a real man appreciates real sex better sometimes then a payperview session.
Eh, Im sorry, so many thoughts in my head, and Im just trying to get them out.
This is the deal:
You invite a gorgeous 24 y/o dancer out to dinner and she accepts. Sounds reasonable, you didnt mention sex to her.
During dinner, the conversation drifts towards the real meaning of your asking her out, and she says one of two things:
Hey, JL, you better eat all your dinner cause Im really horny tonight, and when youre done, Im going to take you back to my apartment, and fuck your brains out all night until one of us pass out.
Or
Hey, JL, you better eat all your dinner cause Im really horny tonight, and when your done, Im going to take you back to my apartment, and fuck your brains out all night until one of us pass out, and Im only going to charge you 400 bucks cause I can!
Now, tell me, honestly, do you think the sex would be equal, or do you think the sex would be much hotter if she made the first statement or second statement?
I say, in order to understand really hot sex, the adrenalin rush, the thrill of the hunt, the thrill of victory, money cannot be an issue, ever. Thats hot sex, and I dont see it any other way.
Yes, sex can be very hot with whores, steaming, but when its done for unlimited lust only, theres no comparison in my book.
So maybe I think some whores dont understand that a real man appreciates real sex better sometimes then a payperview session.
Eh, Im sorry, so many thoughts in my head, and Im just trying to get them out.
"I do not do it for the money" and "I prostitue" do not belong in the same sentence. That is the point I am making here.
Now when she said it, or if she was pushed into saying it might have a bearing. But the majority of her posts here have the overall feeling of "I charge men for sex because I love the sex, not the money"
I am not doubting she loves sex, that I think we can all agree upon. But I just feel there is a slight sense of denial going on here when the issue of money is brought up.
Don't get me wrong, she sounds like a fabulous girl, who I would almost undoubtedly like, get along with, and would visit often. But I don't think that would ever happen because she probably feels I look down at her. Which is as far from the truth as you can get.
Now when she said it, or if she was pushed into saying it might have a bearing. But the majority of her posts here have the overall feeling of "I charge men for sex because I love the sex, not the money"
I am not doubting she loves sex, that I think we can all agree upon. But I just feel there is a slight sense of denial going on here when the issue of money is brought up.
Don't get me wrong, she sounds like a fabulous girl, who I would almost undoubtedly like, get along with, and would visit often. But I don't think that would ever happen because she probably feels I look down at her. Which is as far from the truth as you can get.
This question is difficult for me to compute.
I mean, me, personally, I would NEVER be out to dinner with a stripper where it wasn't clear to both of us, even without discussion, that (a) we were gonna have sex, and (b) I was gonna pay her.
No, wait, there's one exception that maybe provides the answer to your question. Once I took a stripper out to dinner for the first time. HER agenda was that she wasn't going to get paid for it. After we were finished, as we were about to leave the hotel room, I pretty much persuaded her to let me give her some money, just because I didn't want to be involved with anyone outside my marriage for free.
But the point is, the sex we had wasn't any different from the sex I usually have with strippers who have decided from the outset I'm gonna pay them. (I said "usually".)
But that doesn't mean I'm totally disagreeing with you. Here's where I see a difference in the kinds of sex I have. I usually don't "date" strippers until we know each other pretty well. So what we do together on "dates" -- the hanging out as well as the sex -- isn't forced or impersonal because, well, we know each other pretty well. The kind of sex we have seems very different to me from the kind of sex I have with prostitutes I don't know, who I meet for the first time and then within ten or 15 minutes, bang, we're in bed together. Sure, that kind of sex can be really hot and really fun (or not) -- but it's very different from the kind of sex I have (even for the first time) with women I already know (and who have, to some extent, chosen to have sex with me in particular -- for whatever reason, money obviously being a big one -- as opposed to just responding to a phone call from someone they don't know and showing up).
OR, here's another answer: I've been in a relationship with the same person for more than 25 years. So it's been more than 25 years since I've had sex with anyone else OTHER THAN women I've paid. So how the fuck can I remember the "adreneline rush" and the "thrill of victory"?
I mean, me, personally, I would NEVER be out to dinner with a stripper where it wasn't clear to both of us, even without discussion, that (a) we were gonna have sex, and (b) I was gonna pay her.
No, wait, there's one exception that maybe provides the answer to your question. Once I took a stripper out to dinner for the first time. HER agenda was that she wasn't going to get paid for it. After we were finished, as we were about to leave the hotel room, I pretty much persuaded her to let me give her some money, just because I didn't want to be involved with anyone outside my marriage for free.
But the point is, the sex we had wasn't any different from the sex I usually have with strippers who have decided from the outset I'm gonna pay them. (I said "usually".)
But that doesn't mean I'm totally disagreeing with you. Here's where I see a difference in the kinds of sex I have. I usually don't "date" strippers until we know each other pretty well. So what we do together on "dates" -- the hanging out as well as the sex -- isn't forced or impersonal because, well, we know each other pretty well. The kind of sex we have seems very different to me from the kind of sex I have with prostitutes I don't know, who I meet for the first time and then within ten or 15 minutes, bang, we're in bed together. Sure, that kind of sex can be really hot and really fun (or not) -- but it's very different from the kind of sex I have (even for the first time) with women I already know (and who have, to some extent, chosen to have sex with me in particular -- for whatever reason, money obviously being a big one -- as opposed to just responding to a phone call from someone they don't know and showing up).
OR, here's another answer: I've been in a relationship with the same person for more than 25 years. So it's been more than 25 years since I've had sex with anyone else OTHER THAN women I've paid. So how the fuck can I remember the "adreneline rush" and the "thrill of victory"?
But there's yet ANOTHER answer to your question, BMM. And it's funny, cuz it comes down to a theme that always seems to come up in our discussions of like topics.
You're talking about what it feels like TO THE MAN. That isn't at all what SheLovesIt was talking about. She was talking about what it feels like TO HER.
ALL she was saying is that SHE HERSELF can enjoy most of the commercial sex she has (on top of the enjoyment she gets from getting paid). She wasn't talking about THE GUY'S issues at all. So really, your questions, while of tremendous interest to me and possibly you, have nothing to do with ANYTHING she was posting about.
You're talking about what it feels like TO THE MAN. That isn't at all what SheLovesIt was talking about. She was talking about what it feels like TO HER.
ALL she was saying is that SHE HERSELF can enjoy most of the commercial sex she has (on top of the enjoyment she gets from getting paid). She wasn't talking about THE GUY'S issues at all. So really, your questions, while of tremendous interest to me and possibly you, have nothing to do with ANYTHING she was posting about.
Listen, Gooey!
gooey2k, i will get to you some more later. i don't even know why i peeked onto this thread just now because, actually, i'm getting ready for a sweet date. and, just so you know, he is a regular. and you know what he's bringing me today for 2 hours of dirty, nasty, animalistic sex? a bag of weed. no more. nothing more. no money, fuckin' nothin' but a $20. bag 'o weed. again, would a slut who got into prostitution JUST FOR THE MONEY do that? i don't know, maybe some whores do. but when i said to him, "it's on me tonight, just bring me a bag 'o weed" he understood me clearly, because i've seen him for a bag 'o weed before. only because he sees me regularly, once a week, faithfully. and i appreciate his generosity very much and, seriously dude, i love fuckin' him! and he loves fucking me. because he knows i love it. or maybe that's not the reason. maybe he thinks i just do it for the fuckin' money. huh? ya think?
i went on a rampage there but i just wanted to say i never, ever said i was not a prostitute. i've called myself everything from a prostitute to an escort to a whore to a slut. i said i did not get into prostitution (the exchange of money for sexual fuckin' favors) for the money ONLY. i said, if you were listening clearly and unimpaired, i got into prostitution because i'm a dirty, nasty, slut who loves to fuck every day. the money is secondary. if i did it for the money i'd be doing everybody, probably steppin' out every night, putting it on anybody with enough money to pay me. if i did it for the money i'd probably be in a whore house where they screen my guys and i have to do whoever wants me. but i am in total control here. i did not start to prostitute (the exhange of money for sexual fuckin' favors) for money ONLY. i did it because i love sex very much, i admit.
i have money. i work. my rent and bills are paid, sweetheart. but you imagine me needy and insist that money was the deciding factor. i do not need to fuck to live well. i already do. but can i help it if an horny slut like me realized that there are actually nice guys in this world who will pay for companionship.
i'll get back to you some more later. right now i gotta go shower and shave, make my body silky smooth. i got some fuckin' and suckin' to do, eagerly, longinly, all for a bag 'o weed! (inject big ole cheesy smile here) i love this hobby!
gooey2k, i will get to you some more later. i don't even know why i peeked onto this thread just now because, actually, i'm getting ready for a sweet date. and, just so you know, he is a regular. and you know what he's bringing me today for 2 hours of dirty, nasty, animalistic sex? a bag of weed. no more. nothing more. no money, fuckin' nothin' but a $20. bag 'o weed. again, would a slut who got into prostitution JUST FOR THE MONEY do that? i don't know, maybe some whores do. but when i said to him, "it's on me tonight, just bring me a bag 'o weed" he understood me clearly, because i've seen him for a bag 'o weed before. only because he sees me regularly, once a week, faithfully. and i appreciate his generosity very much and, seriously dude, i love fuckin' him! and he loves fucking me. because he knows i love it. or maybe that's not the reason. maybe he thinks i just do it for the fuckin' money. huh? ya think?
i went on a rampage there but i just wanted to say i never, ever said i was not a prostitute. i've called myself everything from a prostitute to an escort to a whore to a slut. i said i did not get into prostitution (the exchange of money for sexual fuckin' favors) for the money ONLY. i said, if you were listening clearly and unimpaired, i got into prostitution because i'm a dirty, nasty, slut who loves to fuck every day. the money is secondary. if i did it for the money i'd be doing everybody, probably steppin' out every night, putting it on anybody with enough money to pay me. if i did it for the money i'd probably be in a whore house where they screen my guys and i have to do whoever wants me. but i am in total control here. i did not start to prostitute (the exhange of money for sexual fuckin' favors) for money ONLY. i did it because i love sex very much, i admit.
i have money. i work. my rent and bills are paid, sweetheart. but you imagine me needy and insist that money was the deciding factor. i do not need to fuck to live well. i already do. but can i help it if an horny slut like me realized that there are actually nice guys in this world who will pay for companionship.
i'll get back to you some more later. right now i gotta go shower and shave, make my body silky smooth. i got some fuckin' and suckin' to do, eagerly, longinly, all for a bag 'o weed! (inject big ole cheesy smile here) i love this hobby!
well, I guess her point of view is a valid one then as far as she is concerned.
So, Shelovesit, Im sorry for calling you a liar.
I take it back. Im truly sorry.
I do feel, if what you state is true, you might be missing out of really hot sex, as compared to what you consider it, from a man that enjoys the adrenalin rush of not accepting a sure thing.
I dont understand how even though sheloves it meets with a man, for an hour lets say, and only chooses those in great shape(does she request he bring his latest blood results to check his heart and cholesterol?), how does she know he is going to be great sex?
Real sex that is done for nothing other than the animal instinct in us all, and pure eroticism, elation, and personal satisfaction, in my opinion, is never obtained if a woman thinks a man should pay, for whatever reason, even if she can.
So, Shelovesit, Im sorry for calling you a liar.
I take it back. Im truly sorry.
I do feel, if what you state is true, you might be missing out of really hot sex, as compared to what you consider it, from a man that enjoys the adrenalin rush of not accepting a sure thing.
I dont understand how even though sheloves it meets with a man, for an hour lets say, and only chooses those in great shape(does she request he bring his latest blood results to check his heart and cholesterol?), how does she know he is going to be great sex?
Real sex that is done for nothing other than the animal instinct in us all, and pure eroticism, elation, and personal satisfaction, in my opinion, is never obtained if a woman thinks a man should pay, for whatever reason, even if she can.
I don't think so because if she were trying to say it's better to be both then she would just sleep with men for free. No?
But if it comes out to be that she was trying to say that it's better to be both then I would have to totally disagree. What good comes out of screwing a bunch of cute guys for free that you meet at the dance club on Saturday night. Nothing but a trip to the clinic and some guy putting you in his "this girl is a dumb whore book".
Now taking a piece of self respect and being a whore and charging makes more sense. If your gonna run around and fuck people cause you wanna be a nasty bitch it's better to get something out of it rather then just a nut on a women's point of view of course. JMHO
xoxo
Lacey
Ok, to bring one of my own issues into this conversation:
I often meet working girls in my capacity as owner of this board. Sometimes, they make sexual advances towards me of one kind or another. It's difficult for me to discern what it's about, most of the time. Is she:
Trolling for business and expecting to get her going rate from me,
Trying to get some special treatment on this board,
Trying to "star fuck",
Finding me attractive and she's horney,
Something else I don't even realise?
(empty male boasting: I have to say one of my all time ego boosts was having a working get me to go out with her and take me to bed because she had heard from some other working girl I'd seen off the clock that I was "great in bed" and she wanted to check it out for herself).
I often meet working girls in my capacity as owner of this board. Sometimes, they make sexual advances towards me of one kind or another. It's difficult for me to discern what it's about, most of the time. Is she:
Trolling for business and expecting to get her going rate from me,
Trying to get some special treatment on this board,
Trying to "star fuck",
Finding me attractive and she's horney,
Something else I don't even realise?
(empty male boasting: I have to say one of my all time ego boosts was having a working get me to go out with her and take me to bed because she had heard from some other working girl I'd seen off the clock that I was "great in bed" and she wanted to check it out for herself).
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